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Guru Parampara – The List of 32

 
GURU-PARAMPARA: THE LIST OF 32
 
nama om visnu padaya krsna presthaya bhutale srimate bhaktivedanta swamin iti namine namaste sarasvate deve gauravani pracarine nirvisesa sunyavadi pascatya desa tarine
 

I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who is very dear to Lord Krsna, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.
 
Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Sarasvati Gosvami. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanyadeva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.

 
PREFACE
 

During the ISKCON lila pastime of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, most devotees simply accepted the list of 32 names found in the Introduction of Bhagavad-gita As It Is. There was little discussion about the significance or meaning of this list. A few devotees who had direct access to Srila Prabhupada did question him about it, and we have his recorded responses, such as the letter to Upendra das. We can see by these responses that Srila Prabhupada did not go into an elaborate or extensive explanation of the list.
One could say that we were all such neophyte disciples that Srila Prabhupada concluded we were not capable of truly comprehending the intricacies or the deep philosophical significance of this list. But on the other hand, if today we had the same surrendered attitude towards Srila Prabhupada that we did back then — if we appreciated his position as a truly qualified member of the List of 32 Sampradaya Acaryas — then we would not have to go through the exercise of discussing the significance of the list.
Because Srila Prabhupada is not accepted, even by many of his so-called followers, as a rarified Sampradaya Acarya, there have been many disagreements which have resulted in many problems, both within and without the preaching mission that he established. In presenting this paper, we hope the reader will ultimately come to the same conclusion we have — that A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada is unquestionably qualified to be included in the rarified strata of Sampradaya Acaryas, of which there are only 32 going back to Lord Brahma.
By reading this presentation, you will begin to see how what appeared in the beginning to be such a simple thing, has become quite a complicated matter and the source of much conflict. In fact, this phenomenon has likely repeated itself since the beginning of the Sampradaya, particularly manifesting after the disappearance of great devotees like those mentioned on the List of 32. Upon their departure the question arises: who is qualified to be on the guru-parampara list, and who is not? Arriving at an answer to this question is something each devotee must do for himself. We are simply hoping to help the reader make this unavoidable decision, which is essential for spiritual advancement.
We encourage the devotees to reflect upon the expansive period this list encompasses, going right back to the time of Lord Brahma, for whom the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya is named. We believe the Sampradaya Acaryas who compose these lists invite us to do just that — reflect upon just how far back the list goes, so that we can see how qualified one would have to be in order to have their name included on the list. The guru-parampara list of 32 cannot be taken lightly or insignificantly.
Rocana dasa April 4, 2012

 

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Beautiful and Perfect

Prabhupada’s ISKCON is Beautiful and Perfect!

I often write to simply sort out my own thoughts and get them off my chest, so to speak. Recently I came across the following letter I wrote a long time ago. Although it is just my own thoughts, maybe others will be inspired by it, so I am presenting it here:

“As it is said by Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih: a spiritual master, or the parampara-acarya, should be respected exactly like the Supreme Personality of Godhead.” (SB 4.22.4)

Here we see the difference between a conditioned soul (or even an advanced devotee) and Srila Prabhupada. We must respect all devotees even though they are conditioned souls, to one degree or another, but it says here that “the spiritual master, or the parampara-acarya should be respected exactly like the Supreme Personality of Godhead”. It is not proper to put a conditioned soul in this position and thus artificially give him (or her) the respect or worship equal to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This will simply cause a disturbance.

Artificial or blind following can and will create havoc in the world.

We must be honest with ourselves and others regarding the actual level of advancement we and others are at. This is simply part of being honest and one of the main qualities of a Vaisnava, sadhu, or brahmana is honesty. As King Prithu has said in the Srimad Bhagavatam 4.15.22, “O gentle suta, magadha and other devotee offering prayers, the qualities of which you have spoken are not distinct in me. Why then should you praise me for all these qualities when I do not shelter these features? I do not wish for these words meant for me to go in vain, but it is better that they be offered to someone else.” In the next purport after this verse Srila Prabhupada clearly warns, “If a man who does not factually possess the attributes of a great personality engages his followers in praising him with the expectation that such attributes will develop in the future, that sort of praise is actually an insult.”(SB 4.15.23)

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Thirty Two

Feb. 3, 2010 Dear …………, Greetings,   On Feb. 1st, 2010 you wrote: “To Dhira Govinda: If I accept one guru and after his physical departure I mainly rely on associating with him through his instructions, who corrects me when I make mistakes? And does it mean that after 30 years or so of practicing … Read more

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Truthfulness and Honesty

 
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1. I meditate upon Lord Sri Krsna because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes… (Srila Vyasadeva; Srimad-Bhagavatam [SB] 1.1.1).

2. Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are, for the benefit of others (Srila Prabhupada; Bhagavad-gita [Bg] 10.4 purport [pp]).

3. If one does not know what is honesty, how can he be honest? But if you know what is honesty, then you can be honest (Srila Prabhupada; Perfect Questions Perfect Answers [PQPA] p. 55).

4. You must know the order of God. And if you follow that, then that is honesty (Srila Prabhupada; PQPA, p. 56).

5. Everything animate or inanimate that is within the universe is controlled and owned by the Lord. One should therefore accept only those things necessary for himself that are set aside as his quota, and one should not accept other things, knowing well to whom they belong (Sri Isopanisad, mantra 1).

6. If I know that everything belongs to Krsna, I will not use anything without His permission. That is honesty. And that is knowledge (Srila Prabhupada; PQPA, p. 58).

7. Even if you drink a glass of water without knowing to whom it belongs, you are a thief. So you may think, “I am honest,” but actually you are a thief. You must remember Krsna, “Oh Krsna, it is Your creation, so kindly allow me to drink.” Therefore a devotee always thinks of Krsna. In all activities he thinks, “Oh, it is Krsna’s.” This is honesty. So without Krsna consciousness everyone is a rascal, a thief, a rogue and a robber (Srila Prabhupada; PQPA, p. 61).
 

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Back to Godhead

  One can observe what Srila Prabhupada wanted us to do by what he did.   Having spent six years on and off with him, often being with him in the room, many times a day, he also told us things and expected that those he told, especially his servants and GBCs and others would … Read more

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The Position of Krishna

  From ‘Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy’, Chapter 2, by Sadaputa dasa (Richard L. Thompson)   Modern physics and astronomy began with the idea that matter is made of tiny bits of substance, each of which has a location in three-dimensional space. According to this idea, which was strongly developed by Descartes and Newton, three-dimensional space … Read more

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The Heliodorus Column

    Heliodorus was a Greek ambassador to India in the second century B.C. Few details are known about the diplomatic relations between the Greeks and the Indians in those days, and still less is know about Heliodorus. But that the column he erected at Besnagar in central India about 113 B.C, is considered one … Read more

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Hindu Cult or Divine Culture?

Krishna consciousness: Hindu Cult or Divine Culture? This question is increasingly being asked not only by devotees but also by spiritual seekers of all shades and colours and even by so called ordinary people. The media has also shown some interest recently. This important question needs to be answered especially in the light of the … Read more

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Embracing Unity in Diversity

(Early Notes Toward a Rhetoric of Consciousness).

When I was teaching in gurukulas, the students would occasionally find out that another child didn’t like one sort of food or another and would tease them: “Eww—you don’t like mangoes? That means you don’t like Prabhupada and Krishna!” These eight- or nine-year-olds were probably joking, or half joking, to the extent that kids are capable. But when adults insist in the rudest language that other devotees who don’t share their opinions on one detail or another regarding devotional practice or association are faithless, or even demons, they are not joking. And it’s not funny.

Rather, they are simply demonstrating a narrow-minded attitude and cramped thinking discouraged by Srila Prabhupada himself. Unfortunately, we see a great deal of such narrow-mindedness in discussions among devotees over the course of our association, both face to face and in online discourse. I have found it to be perhaps the most discouraging, most corrosive attitude among devotees. I believe it would immeasurably improve the quality of devotee association, and perhaps even the devotees’ preaching efforts, if, rather than seeing other devotees of Krishna in such a pinched, miserly way, we tried instead to imbibe and exhibit the kind of broad, generous vision of others that Srila Prabhupada himself exemplified.

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Coming To Krishna – The Agni And The Ecstasy

July 10, 1975, it was a beautiful summer day. Although i was an exuberant twenty-year-old, i had no qualms about staying indoors on this occasion. I was being initiated into the ancient tradition of Krsna consciousness by my spiritual master, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the founder-acarya of the International Society for Krishna … Read more

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